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DISRUPTED FLOWS OF LOGIC
JLD, 6/1/10, Revised: 6/4/10, 3/7/11, 11/12/11
Inconsistencies in our belief systems come from dozens, hundreds or even thousands of years of mixing & blending of old ideas with the new. We often fail to be consistent and we veer off track, especially when we find that our model of the world has exceptions, inconsistencies and flaws. So we make something up, take something from our enemies’ propaganda script and voila--all better!!
But, shucks, now we have created an illogical belief system, but instead of losing followers we gain many more. How can this be, are human beings comfortable and most at home in contradiction? It would seem that we love that tension between our beliefs and reality. This tension gives us freedom, the freedom to create our own amendments to our belief system. We maintain our independence; because you can’t expect us to follow the morality of a flawed system, can you? I’ll just do what I desire, rebel a little and I will seem like I’m my own person, not under the control of anyone. No one may control me unless they are paying me and it is work related. God or State is no longer in control, not especially through any religion, spirituality, or scientific atheism.
SIMPLE LOGICAL RELIGION THREADS
Statement: “I love God, but I don’t go to church”.
Declaration: “Religion asks too much, like studying religion, giving money and time to a church and I’m not going to do all that. God loves me even if I don’t go to church and no one can get me to go to church”.
WHAT ARE THEY REALLY SAYING?
God is okay, as long as He doesn’t get too demanding. He can’t tell me what to do unless I agree with Him. I pay my bills, I’m nice to people and I don’t commit crimes. I don’t enjoy church, it’s unnecessary and a waste of time. It’s for fanatics that want to live in a fantasy world of Heaven and become saints. I live in the real world and I don’t have want to listen to sermons to improve or feel good about myself or my life, I feel complete already.
FUTURE LOGICAL DESTINATION FOR HIM/HER
They will probably never go to church. If their children or friends go, they will talk badly about religion and speak about how someone in church hurt them or took advantage of them & either ignored or discouraged them. They will get older & find life a little more empty and boring. They may pray at night, but God won’t be an active part of their intellectual, mental and emotional life during most of the day. They will be critical, judgmental, & thrill seeking and think that they are more holy than the religious. This will cause reality to blur into their fantasy of who they are, self righteous in need of no religious instruction, fellowship or forgiveness.
SOLUTION
Realize that church is necessary, but if you can’t go for whatever real reason or poor excuse, then listen to a church by a media outlet, such as TV, Radio, recorded Church services, Internet, etc. This must be done on a schedule at least once a week at the same time, but preferably 1-7 days a week.
SIMPLE LOGICAL RELIGION/SCIENCE THREADS
Statement: “I believe in Atheistic or Theistic Evolution (God works through Evolution) and I don’t believe that Adam and Eve were real people or the first people to talk to God or get souls”.
False Conclusion: “I can believe in Jesus Christ and believe in Atheistic Evolution or Theistic Evolution without Adam & Eve. If I don’t accept modern science people will think I’m an ignorant fool or blinded by fanaticism and I’ll have to agree. To choose ancient religion over modern proven science is living in the pre-scientific age”.
WHAT ARE THEY REALLY SAYING?
Religion is good and helpful as a meditation and as literature, but now we know that the Bible (any Scripture) is based on myths, fantasies and allegories. The modern man is too smart for such ancient wisdom and we have far surpassed it. Following ancient wisdom means “preventing positive progress” in the modern world.
FUTURE LOGICAL DESTINATION FOR HIM/HER
If the Bible is a myth and there was no Adam & Eve, then God didn’t create us in the Garden of Eden/Paradise, there is no “fall of man” and therefore no such thing as “original sin”. If sin is a myth, then Jesus Christ died in vain to save us. Maybe he was speaking allegorically or metaphorically or trying to get us to see a higher truth that: Religion is a bunch of feces. Depending of the mercy of God & His judgment: their sincerity, their good works, their faith, gullibility,love of evil thoughts and philosophies--this person may wind up disbelieving in his religion or truth and perhaps wind up in a personal hell and future hell.
SOLUTION
Christianity succeeds or fails by the doctrines of sin and atonement by Jesus Christ so, Atheistic Evolution & Liberal Christianity that teach Adam & Eve are a myth are anti-Christian & betray Christianity & Jesus Christ. You will leave the church mentally and maybe physically, given enough time, if you believe that foundational belief that Adam & Eve were sons & daughters in harmony with God, face to face, & then they broke the relationship permanently. If the Bible and Jesus are proven wrong by science and the atheists or you chose to believe that the Bible is nonsense then your faith is in complete contradiction to itself.
To remain a Christian you can only believe that God created the world, through evolution or through instant creation or some variation of it. You must believe that Adam & Eve are actual beings (the names don't matter as much) that were created and given the Holy Spirit, clothed in garments of glory and spoke to God face to face. They chose to disobey God and became sinners, separated from some of the blessings of God & from Paradise on earth & Paradise in Heaven, in some form or fashion. Jesus Christ is either: an ignorant Jew that believed in Jewish fairy tales; someone controlled or hypnotized by someone insane, greedy or malevolent; a mentally unstable/ill person, a criminal who deliberately led people astray or the only God/Man--ever, who opened the gates of Heaven through his sacrifice of total obedience to God on the cross & in his mind, body and heart. Even if 90% of Christians believe that Jesus isn’t necessary for salvation, it is the only sure doctrine that Jesus taught and any other belief is heresy, fantasy, and won’t take you to Heaven. You are an anti-Christ & anti-Christian if you don’t believe what Jesus believed & taught. That doesn't mean you are a demon or horrible person. It just means you aren't speaking the truth as an orthodox Christian & the New Testament declares. That doesn't even mean you will go to Hell, who knows what you will believe before you die or even tomorrow?
SIMPLE LOGICAL RELIGION THREADS
Statement: “I believe in God, but when I act too religious I get bored, depressed and no one likes me”.
False Conclusion: “I must be religious at home and church but around others I must curse a little, joke about sex, and do a few bad things”.
WHAT ARE THEY REALLY SAYING?
Being religious is impossible, because if you follow God you’re miserable and if you don’t obey-totally you feel guilty. If I really tried to be religious I’d cut myself off from all my friends and much of my family and they would say,
“You think you’re better than us, but you don’t seem so holy to us”. I’m not a saint so unless the church wants to hire me, I better keep one foot in the non-religious world.
FUTURE LOGICAL DESTINATION FOR HIM/HER
You can’t be happy if you live half way in two worlds of thought, both will suffer from your inconsistency. You will live in guilt and not be fully accepted in either world and not be able to enjoy either world fully. You may die wondering what the total religious life would have been like.
SOLUTION
Jump into religion with both feet. Start with mornings and evenings dedicated to reading, writing, meditating & praying. God must come first and find a way to establish that in your life. Marriage is a life-long commitment and if you go into it thinking divorce is an acceptable way out, then you probably will get divorced. Religion is the same way; you must give a hundred percent and marry God for a life-time. You can develop your own ways & relationship with God. If a divorce happens, oh well, but at least you tried. Learning to be religious you must practice it until it becomes a habit. Practice good behaviors and thoughts. Then you will start to like your new way of life and hate the old sinful way.
SIMPLE LOGICAL SCIENCE THREADS
Statement: “I believe in the Big Bang Theory because it proves that God created the world out of nothing (ex nihilo)”.
False Conclusion: “I believe that when science agrees with the Bible I should use it to convince rational people that the God of Christianity is the true God.
WHAT ARE THEY REALLY SAYING?
I feel stupid believing in the Christian God especially when atheistic scientists make us look like Jackasses (Donkeys). The Bible must be believed by faith and even though there are some provable facts, prophecies and archeological evidence there is always a little room for doubt. Why can’t God come down and prove himself now? I know why, because there would be little room for free will or faith. It’s not easy being Christian and it would be better if no one was criticizing us, but then we should rejoice under persecution…. What’s aggravating is no one seems serious about God and I feel like a fool when I try to follow the Bible.
SOLUTION
Faith in Jesus Christ doesn’t depend on science or anti-science it depends on faith. If someone says your wife cheated on you, but they don’t have much proof and they’ve been known to exaggerate and invent stories out of a few neutral facts, (Many atheists invent: deceptive & destructive stories) then you must confront your wife in a loving way, but unless you have proof then you’d be a darn fool to accuse her. The same is true with Jesus and science. Science is the art of exploring theories with experiments. Often someone with a religious or anti-religious bias or a commercial agenda or an anti-society agenda will use the same study for their own purposes. “Wine is good for your health”, the grape growers insist. “Wine is bad for your health”, the anti-alcohol people insist. Both quote statistics from a scientific experiment they sponsored. Science can be manipulated by different story tellers and so can the Bible. I will follow the Bible story-makers that mostly agree with the words of Jesus. If you let science or any criticism of the Bible or Jesus destroys your faith, then your faith was weak & defective. Ask God to give you true faith. Without God’s help none of us will stick with God, but we must ask for it and follow it down any path.
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SIMPLE LOGICAL DATING THREADS
Statement: “I believe that I must date, fall in love, form successful relationships or I will be incomplete, rejected and unhappy”.
False Conclusion: “I believe that those who don’t date are losers, cold-hearted, lonely, pathetic, and I will never get married either. I believe that if I can’t get along with the opposite sex then I might be a homosexual/lesbian, abnormal, suicidal and depressed. If I become a queer/lezzie then I’ll have to leave my church, avoid my family and friends, hang out in gay bars and get AIDs and never have children or grandchildren. If I’m not gay that’s even worse, because then I’ll be the lonely person, who has friends, but no one to love and sleep with and everyone will still ask me if I’m gay”.
WHAT ARE THEY REALLY SAYING?
I don’t have confidence in myself. Maybe I don’t even want to date or I’m not ready yet, but those thoughts are too threatening to accept. God is not enough for me I need human contact and warmth. God can’t be trusted to give me what I need: a husband/wife. God may want me to become a non-sexual person who doesn’t lust after anyone, like a saint and people will think I’m a religious fanatic and never invite me anywhere. If I die and never have sex then I’ll lose out on the greatest human experience--sex & that doesn’t even exist in Heaven. What if God won’t let me marry until I’m in my forties or fifties, almost dead? I’m worried! The truth is I don’t like the person after I get to know them or they don't like me and I don’t think I’ll find someone who likes me either.
FUTURE LOGICAL DESTINATION FOR HIM/HER
Dating, sex and marriage will cause them to worry, be anxious, be depressed, and feel worse than when they were alone. They will find it hard to decide if relationships are more beneficial or harmful and then they must stick to their decision, but peer pressure may cause them to go against their own wisdom.
SOLUTION
They must learn to enjoy being single, being alone, going out alone, being willing to talk with strangers and then will learn what makes them happy in a relationship. In Heaven, the presence of God will outshine, any smile of the opposite sex. God will create feelings so powerful that they would kill a mortal body. Sex will seem like a mosquito bite compared to God’s overwhelming blast of love. Virgins won’t be playing violins, crying and telling their sad tale that they never had the great pleasure of sex. They won’t miss what they never had. All eyes, minds and hearts will be focused on Jesus.
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SIMPLE LOGICAL THREADS FOR SEX
Statement: "It doesn’t matter if I’m in love with a male or female".
False Conclusion: I can have sex with either sex, but I’m not a bisexual I’m just a loving person. Just because I almost always prefer the same sex as my self doesn’t mean I’m a homo/lesbian.
WHAT ARE THEY REALLY SAYING?
By “love” I mean sex. I have attractions to my own sex and maybe the opposite sex occasionally. Love sometimes brings about a sexual experience and if it does, I’m not fussy about whether they are male or female partners, because I’m a not a hater. I am law abiding, mostly, and so I will not have sex with anyone under 18 years old, with animals, or sea creatures, because I might get injured or drown. I don’t honor the morality of old fashioned Christianity, Judaism, etc., for that takes away my freedom.
I honor the sexual urges of my body, more than my enemy: sexual morality.
FUTURE LOGICAL DESTINATION FOR HIM/HER
If I join a religion it will have to be one that accepts homosexuality/lesbianism/bisexuality/cross dressing/etc., but that will limit the churches, religions or philosophies that I can deal with, because there seem to be few liberal churches. I will follow any science or belief that accepts my choice as valid and even promotes it as good. I will try to change the "civil laws" or support those who can so I will be called “normal”. I probably won’t ever have children, though I may adopt or foster-care. If any children that might have any homosexual/lesbian/etc. tendencies I will carefully nurture the uncommon sexuality by giving them extra love, instruction and attention, but also tell them that I’d accept them even if they were heterosexual.
SOLUTION
If you believe that Jesus Christ is the true savior of the world then you must put yourself and your happiness in second place or resign yourself to never having heterosexual or married sexual happiness. If you die to your self then you will find a new life in Christ. Anyone can be non-sexual, heterosexual, bisexual or homosexual depending on genetics, alcohol, drugs, rape, molestation, and environment of childhood, the morality of your family, peers and society. Jesus says to discipline the body and let the Holy Spirit lead your body for the glory of God. Create a new thought life, find new friends, and admit that your sexual life is prone towards sin. Believe that God will forgive you when, you admit its sin, even though society says its wonderful, liberating, the true you, and a goodly aberration. It’s not. Murderers would like murder to be legal for them, but not for you. So our thoughts confuse us when we are the gods of our own morality. Follow Jesus and accept his morality or reject Jesus and follow your natural morality. If you reject Him you’ll be missed, as any sinner will, but not for long, eternity will roll on without God-haters and this web-page is not intended for you. Christians will love you till your death, because unless you repent you will only have one life on this semi-miserable earth.
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SIMPLE LOGICAL THREADS FOR CHRISTIAN CHURCH TEACHINGS OF SEX
Misleading Church Statement: “God made Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve”.
False Church Conclusion: “If Christians commit sex (fornication) before marriage, we don’t mind as long as it isn’t homosexual/lesbian sex, even though both are sins that merit Hell, if not repented of.”
WHAT ARE THEY REALLY SAYING?
At least heterosexual sexual sins will bring another Christian baby and possibly a Christian marriage into the Church. But homosexuality/lesbianism are sins that bear no fruit for birth-rate of the church or world and they tend to separate the participants from Conservative to Liberal Churches, that don’t believe the Bible is the literal Word of God. No heterosexual singles, divorced or widowed who are sexually active will come to my church if I tell them not to have sex unless married ...and that they’re sinners...so I won't.
FUTURE LOGICAL DESTINATION FOR HIM/HER
Churches that rightfully condemn homosexuality and lesbianism but fail to condemn heterosexuality outside of marriage will grow a church full of fornicating teens, adulterous husbands and wives, & widowed sexual Seniors Citizens, dressed immodestly, and full of lust. The blessing of God will depart from their church, because it has become sinful and evil.
SOLUTION
Pastors & priests are to blame for subtly encouraging sex among heterosexuals instead of condemning it. The Church must repent of their evil underlying theology and teach people how and why to be chaste and virtuous in and out of marriage. Jesus was chaste and so are all obedient Christians.
SIMPLE LOGICAL THREADS FOR WORLD LEADERSHIP
Misleading Statement: “We are destined to rule the world so, join us now and we’ll give you a position later with great power”.
False Conclusion: “If I prophesy something over and over again, eventually everyone will start to believe it or at least give us a chance.”
WHAT ARE THEY REALLY SAYING?
“God has told us….”or “We are divine humans….” “Help us to help you” or “We want to take over the world with: (Pick one) peace; logic; intelligence; holiness; to assume our birthright; peace treaties; threats; force; violence; God’s power; angels; demons; the devil; our outer space brothers; the spirit/ghost brothers; the avatars; saints, nuclear bombs, terrorism, etc.
FUTURE LOGICAL DESTINATION FOR HIM/HER
This usually leads to manipulation, lies, unfair politics, policing, blockading & war. Even Jesus is coming back to slay people (Intellectually & emotionally force them to see the Truth) with his words, plagues, and possibly physical wars. Jesus is the only credible voice in the crowd. Jesus will set up a kingdom in Jerusalem and will be in charge of the entire world, not just a country or two, and there will be peace, true peace. The Christian Church and the Jewish Church will not be in charge of the world. Jesus Christ (The Messiah) will be in charge, not in America--as an homage to Protestants or in Rome, Italy--as an homage to Roman Catholics, but in Jerusalem--as an homage to the Jews. But an orthodox Rabbi won’t be in charge, but the infidel Jesus Christ, that most Jews consider a curse word, and that will be a great embarrassment to the Jews. So God’s ways are not our ways, but it’s all there in the Bible for all to see, so please don’t blame me. Thank you.
SOLUTION
Get on the winning side which is the only one that also leads to eternal life. Ask Jesus Christ to save you in exchange for your free will, which you must daily give up to Him cheerfully and gratefully. Follow His words in the Bible then find a church that honors and obeys him and isn’t concerned with pleasing politicians, liberals & atheistic thinkers.
SIMPLE LOGICAL THREADS FOR MUSLIMS FIGHTING & HATING THE JEWS
Misleading Statements: "The Muslims are fighting the Jews, because Mohammed (Or Allah) told them to do so".
False Conclusion: Therefore until the Jews are cast out of all leadership & ownership of any lands: historical, past or future Muslim lands, and then if the Jews all accept the Muslim religion and convert to it & they are proven to be sincere Muslims then they will become our friends.
WHAT ARE THEY REALLY SAYING?
"We don’t like Jews, its part of our religion & Arabic history before Islam, so leave us alone". The Arabs hate their brothers and cousins the Jews, because the Jewish Bible says that God picked the Jews to be the chosen people (Isaac & Jacob {Renamed Israel}) and merely blessed Arabs & Egyptians with a great family and name in the world. The Arabs surround Israel, so as long as they are still Muslims then Muslims of all countries and races must join in the Arab quest to destroy the Jews. As long as the Jews exist then we have competition for the title: “Most favored of God”.
FUTURE LOGICAL DESTINATION FOR HIM/HER
The Arab Muslims will be mostly destroyed morally and physically by the Jewish state of Israel to the point that they can’t make war again for a thousand years. The Jewish version of God will be upheld, because in warring cultures, “Might makes right”. So through extreme violence and the coming of the Messiah, which is Jesus, to the surprise of Jews and Muslims, & liberal Christians there will be a peace based on God's living among the people of the world.
SOLUTION
Get on the winning side, the Jewish state of Israel. If you can’t support them, then at least get out of their way and don’t hinder them in any way.
SIMPLE LOGICAL THREADS FOR REMOVING RELIGION FROM PUBLIC EDUCATION
Misleading Statement: There are too many gods & atheists and the Federal Government cannot chose one God over another, even the most beneficial and least violent. Without a State religion or State god it would cost too much money, take too much time and offend too many students and their families to present prayers in all the religions of all the students and not make the atheists feel inferior. We will create a blended religion or philosophy.
False Conclusion: We must remove all prayers and symbols of gods or God from the students, text books, teaching, and buildings. The parents & churches will be responsible for the children's religious education and the schools for a secular and godless education, with secular morals taught that apply to most people & protect the students, teachers and school property.
WHAT ARE THEY REALLY SAYING?
As liberals, our new pluralistic interpretation & reinvention of the Constitution must take precedence over preserving the religious heritage of America. Whether safety or anarchy rules over America we don’t care. We must remove the insult of religion and God from every area of the public and if possible the private sectors and the homes.
FUTURE LOGICAL DESTINATION FOR HIM/HER
Since the 1960s, when prayer and the mention of God were removed from the American public classrooms, the students understood that God wasn’t in charge of the classrooms. If the teachers were in charge, they were only human like them, so how dare they tell them what to do. They had no moral authority over them, so the schools became violent, full of drugs, alcohol & sex and every year less students are able to graduate from High School and go on to College.
SOLUTION
Bad Solution: Give the government total control over jobs, families and schools so, that the students will fear authority again, as in Socialism, Marxism or Communism. We prefer a police state over the inner-control of a religious person.
Good Solution: Put God into public schools again, the Jewish and Christian God that has the best morality in the Ten Commandments and the loving words & actions of Jesus. Supplement or give vouchers for Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, Communist, Jewish, Jehovah Witness, & Mormon schools, etc. unless they advocate the overthrow of America. If they can afford to take over our country they can pay for their own education. Since the majority of the population is Christian and god-fearing, then the public schools should serve the majority. The minority can be bussed to private schools if they are not dedicated to or promoting hatred, but are contributing towards their family, race, community, the business/nonprofit community and the USA.
SIMPLE LOGICAL THREADS FOR
Misleading Statement:
False Conclusion:
WHAT ARE THEY REALLY SAYING?
FUTURE LOGICAL DESTINATION FOR HIM/HER
SOLUTION
