Revisions: 6/19/10, 7/18/10, 11/14/10
Dear Pope Benedict, Grand Inquisitor and Cardinals & Protestant Leaders,
A Bishop is a shepherd like Jesus who washes the other Bishop’s feet
and who heals, protects, & guides ALL the sheep of his flock.
The Good Shepherd, Jesus, also rebuked the bad shepherds like:
Civil authorities that administered unjust religious laws (Herod);
Pharisees, who created church laws and traditions that no one could follow;
Priests, who had become actors in a religious play, but they were wolves;
Scribes, false prophets and heretics who had lying tongues;
Professors & rabbis (teachers) who didn’t love Jesus & said he was a mythical man;
Laity who loved weddings, drinking, rebellion against Rome, nude Olympics and watching criminals battle each other as gladiators and/or attacked by animals, but they didn’t want to follow Jesus or preach about Him, but they went to go to Temple on Saturday each week & gave a 10% tithe.
THE BISHOPS OF ALL CHURCHES HAVE THE RIGHT, GIVEN BY JESUS’ EXAMPLE,
Let's return to the early Bible & extra Biblical traditions of the newly formed humble gatherings of the followers of Jesus of Nazareth as found in St. Paul's letters, the Gospels, the Didache, etc.
Leaders must listened first to the claims of laity & they must be re-judged by the new scholarship of the Bible. Then the theologians and laity and church leaders will examine old doctrines fairly with the Bible and after a majority or a total consensus pronounces their decisions. That seems fair, because the Holy Spirit guides the laity, the ministers, the theologians, and the church managers all the same.
Some addictions and sins are almost impossible to get over. If the Church of Christ can be sued because of the behavior of it's workers and members then should we adopt the civil laws, even if we think they are unfair and cruel? The Roman Catholic Church and Protestants have been trying to solve this dilemma since Christianity began. Do we follow church laws or civil laws? How can we enforce church laws unless the civil laws allow it? If we immediately fire the pedophile priest or nun then the radical homosexuals will say that that's also not fair and hire a lawyer for them to sue the church. No matter what you do, you will get persecuted and sued.
What about the youth leader that is in an unmarried sexual relationship? Or the organ deacon who harasses her husband? Or the youth that guide, help & teach the childcare's Sunday Schools, but get drunk on Friday night?
Who then can be a priest, nun or religious worker? Isn't "pride" the greatest of deadly sins and most people have that? What if they curse or lust or are greedy or gamble, drink too much, or smoke too much or gossip to much? Which sins should we work in counseling and try to correct and which ones do we immediately censure & fire the person? Should we forgive Deacon or Minister that cheated on his wife, but has repented, or the homosexual or lesbian that has repented and now avoids that life style? Should some sins be unforgivable? Counseling someone to stay or leave a marriage in the church can lead to a law suit, if the advise proves wrong. Many priests and religious are now getting a Masters in Counseling in order to lessen the possibility of getting sued. Religion is getting very expensive.
Let the Vatican/Protestant Headquarters air their religious’ dirty laundry, as the Bible does, that is reveal, rebuke, invite repentance, banish as long as necessary:
personal, civil, and religious crimes, especially crimes against children and humanity.
Don’t expose the confessional, but recognize that a Bishop is not a confessor, when he is an Administrator for the Church. Report and act on the complaints from the sheep of the congregation. Open confession up to public confessions in the congregation or groups.
Get the wolves (Wicked shepherds) out and stop feeding them Catholic/Protestant ewes (female lambs) & little male lambs.
The Pope and the Vatican are learning how to repent, apologize or reconcile themselves to their brothers and sisters (Victims of sexual abuse) and that is a great improvement. Next can we see the Protestants repent and apologize for crimes against Catholic, Anabaptist and other hatred, violence and forced conversions. Confession is good for the soul. It's simple, make this your motto:
"We won't do anything that is bad for the Church of Jesus Christ only what's good for it".
“LEAVE YOUR OFFERING ON THE ALTAR
AND MAKE UP WITH YOUR VICTIMS FIRST”
Then come back and your offering of the body & blood of Jesus Christ will surely be accepted, and your guilt will disappear, your confusion and your sins will be washed away.
Papa,
It’s not
the reporters’ fault,
don’t kill the messenger, its not the
children’s or victims’ fault, it is the top of the pyramid.
The Popes and Bishops/Ministers/Evangelists, over the years, have set the tone for justice, mercy & holiness or deception, subterfuge & hypocrisy. The buck stops there in Rome at the Vatican/Jesuits/Franciscans/Dominicans/Female Religious/Protestant Seminaries, in the Independent/Non-Denominational Churches and Liberal Temples.
In great power is great responsibility.
Without justice, there is mockery of all of God’s commandments. Are you liberal mothers or are you fierce, but loving male Shepherds? The time is short, mara natha!
It's all about Jesus. He said that if he was lifted up (on the cross) he would draw all men to him. It's about Jesus, not a denomination. Preach Jesus, Jesus crucified, risen and alive in our hearts and in Heaven. He is the King of the Universe, not a myth, not a clever story & he's coming back to earth. Are we ready for Jesus?
Revision: 6/19/10
CONCESSION
We need the Church, the ministers, the theologians, the spiritual giants to guide us to Christ & to help us to remain in Him. They interpret the Bible based on the early churches practice and transform the essence of
it's truth for the modern times. Without the Holy Spirit guiding us to these guided ministers of the Gospel, the theologians, administrators and the lay person we would be quickly lost in
heresy, immorality and confusion.
PET PEEVE
"St. Francis said, Preach the Gospel everyday and if you must--use words." This is a COP-OUT by lay people, priests, bishops, ministers or religious, because they won't obey the command of Jesus to preach the Gospel, two by two. Dear sir or mam, If you dress up in a brown cassock, bare footed, after you turn down your family fortune/inheritance... If you beg for food in the streets twice a day and then beg for the poor the rest of the time... If you are obviously in a religious order and always wear your uniform Then, you are following the meaning of St. Francis and you are proclaiming the Gospel without words. Please stop insulting St. Francis, by pretending he doesn't want you to proclaim the name Jesus Christ!
Here is a list of documents by the Church about communication: http://usccb.org/comm/churchdocs.shtml
The first document in particular is from the 2nd Vatican Council about the use of media by the Church: http://usccb.org/comm/mirifica.shtml
This is a major document by Pope Paul 6 on Evangelization: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/apost_exhortations/documents/hf_p-vi_exh_19751208_evangelii-nuntiandi_en.html
And Pope John Paul II wrote extensively about the role of Lay People in the Church, and especially the importance of their evangelization efforts: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_exhortations/documents/hf_jp-ii_exh_30121988_christifideles-laici_en.html" {Thank you Joshua)
Love,
Mr. Nobody Holy or Special, 3/15/10, rev: 5/22/10, 5/28/10
EUNUCHS FOR HEAVEN
I heard on CCTN Catholic TV, 5/30/10, that some Bishops and the Pope finally are responding to the sexual abuse of children correctly and I applaud them for that!!!
By John, 8/21/10
http://My ReligiousQuestionsViews.Yolasite.com These are my opinions which I will change whenever I change my mind.
POPE PETER THE SECOND
Dedicated to: Pope Benedict the 16th
Daddy Peter the 2nd
(“Pope” in Latin means papa or {Greek: pappas} father.)
I know you understand all things holy and you will be the last Pope after the very heart of Jesus.
WELCOME
We have waited a long time for the Pope or Theologian or Lay Person that will introduce the Messiah, our very own Jesus Christ, to the world. We who are alive in Heaven and alive on Earth will watch you hand over the Keys of St. Peter to Jesus. A new crown and a new scepter and a new ring will be made for Jesus Christ. There will never be another Pope, because he is our forever Pope and will be called King of kings and LORD of lords. He is Emanuel, God living with us!! If that doesn’t make you tear up with joy then, say it aloud until it does.
“Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, not crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.” Revelation 21:3-4
Then you will step aside after having led the Universal Church through martyrdom and holiness. How meek and holy you will be and yet you will be silenced & hunted during your brief reign by: the followers of Satan, the treacherous government of the Vatican, the weeds (tares), the demonically possessed church leaders & the wolves in sheep’s clothing, who will be put in charge of all churches by the Anti-Christ, the Beast and his Image.
WHO DIVIDED THE CHURCH?
Are you going to deliberately keep in place the past policies of the Popes, which in effect divided the Universal Church: Roman Catholics separated from Greek Catholics, Orthodox Catholics, Episcopalians, Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians, Baptists, Seventh Day Adventists, etc? Are you willing to break free from the false sense of authority and dictatorship in the current Vatican? Authority that only meets with sporadic obedience from your flock is nothing to brag about.
Jesus was meek, Moses was meek & St. Peter Pope the 1st, was meek. St. Peter never acted like or was treated like a Pope, though James, the brother of Jesus was. What didn’t our past Popes understand about the attitude of the true Pope?
A PRIEST AND PROTESTANT MINISTER
MUST PUT FAMILY SECOND TO GOD
As a Roman Catholic I find it commendable that a minister should only be married once, when while he is serving in his duties in the church as an ordained Minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. That shows that he is willing to give up everything to lead his flock and many others into the Kingdom of Heaven. It shows that he is behaving as Jesus would, except he is married. A married priest and married minister puts his family second, if he is not fearful, idolatrous and ineffective. He puts his family second, not first, as the modern American or European male would do. He must put God & the Kingdom of God on earth and in Heaven first and all else comes later.
Jesus was not married and never demanded it of his followers. I have my opinions on whether the Roman Catholic Church should make not being married a prerequisite to the priesthood or to be a nun, but that’s their choice. A priest and a nun can always go become a deacon or a social worker or become a Protestant, Episcopalian or Greek Orthodox Catholic. No one forces them to be a Roman Catholic.
Who is dividing the Church, but the Roman Catholic Church itself? Sending out the best to the sister & brother churches, must be God’s will which is to keep the church divided. Let’s say we are divided into companies and battalions that can run or attack the enemy most effectively, when there are many commanders. No commander is under a president or top general. It makes the church unpredictable to the enemy. The Church even fights against itself, Catholics versus Protestants and pagans and false religions attack it when it appears the weakest. Maybe that’s how the Universal Church has survived. Blindness has been to our benefit, because we have been led unwillingly, by the Holy Spirit & unknown to us God’s will has been done, not in the way we expected, in spite of the greatness and Keys of the Kingdom Church. These & other mysteries will only be solved in Heaven.
WHY DO PRIESTS GO ALONG WITH CELIBACY,
ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO DESIRE MARRIAGE OR SEX?
If they think or you think its God’s will to be a celibate R.C. priest or nun then, let God’s will be done. God’s ways are not our ways. We are called to endure sacrifice, suffering and abandonment of this world’s false pleasures for the Church and our Father God, as Jesus did.
We are also called to be obedient to God and the Church, but not if the Church has fallen into heresy. Other Popes and Indulgence abusers were heretics, so that proves that it could happen again. History always repeats itself in this sinful world.
If a sister or brother desires sex and marriage during their trial period in seminary & they fall into sexual sins and relationships that are illicit then, they must put away your pride and rebellion and leave their trial vocation before becoming a priest or nun. If, your vocational counselor doesn’t insist on your temporary expulsion or send you to a trial period in the secular world, then they are bigger fools than you and are in disobedience to God.
There are plenty of ways to serve God. If God is telling you not to be a priest or a nun, through the evidence of your sexual expressions, addictions to alcohol & drugs and you do it anyway, then you are risking your happiness and possibly your eternal salvation.
However what if the fruits of this “experiment” of celibacy are rotten and smelly then what good is it for us for you? What if mandatory celibacy for almost all priests and nuns is an experiment, a Pharisaical experiment, a fanatical experiment that has failed? In other words, if Jesus didn’t’ demand it then the Church was increasing the burdens on the flock & causing them unnecessary pain and possibly excluding them from the Kingdom of Heaven. Jesus rebuked the priests, scholars and Temple staff in his day, very severely, for this very thing of adding burdens.
“Then spake Jesus unto the multitude, and to his disciples, Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. But all their works they do for to be seen of men” Matthew 23:4, KJV
The Roman Catholic Church always quotes:
“All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do”
to strengthen their sometimes un Biblical “traditions of men”.
But, they fail to expound and explain this next command after the comma,
“but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.”
“but do not ye after their works:”
But, that is from the King James Version, what about the Catholic version, The New English Bible with the Apocrypha?
“’The doctors of the law and the Pharisees sit in the chair of Moses; therefore do what they tell you; pay attention to their words. But do not follow their practice; for they say one thing and do another. They make up heavy packs and pile them on men’s shoulders, but will not raise a finger to lift the load themselves. Whatever they do is done for show.” Matt. 23:2-4 NEB
If the Vatican is increasing the burden on the Roman Catholics laity AND it is having an evil result or fruits with sexual scandals, people leaving the church, grumbling & even further dividing the church then that fruitless olive tree branch, the ceremonial law tree must be chopped down and burned in the fire. God doesn’t need more commandments and heavier burdens for us to carry. The Vatican doesn’t need to establish its authority by being cruel, overbearing and sadistic.
“Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” Matthew 11:28-30, KJV
THE R.C. CHURCH SAYS
All churches quote the Bible when a particular doctrine of theirs is in agreement with it, but when the Bible can’t justify the Roman Catholic’s teachings it seems to use this defense
"[Roman Catholic Church] The Bible was written by the Church and we are also rewriting it in our laws and catechism or more properly adding to it (addendum), because we are the Church of Christ and we have the Keys of the Kingdom given to us by Pope Peter 1. We have the authority, so obey our ‘Traditions’ or you are free to leave. We added the part about Mary being born without original sin and her being assumed into Heaven, body and soul. We also insist you believe that she is the Queen of Heaven and a powerful savior, who intercedes for us, directly to Jesus, the absolute Savior. She is second only to the Godhead, from whom she gets her authority to intercede for us. Now, we also have insisted on celibacy since hundreds of years ago. We don’t teach that celibacy for all priests is Biblical or even necessary for salvation, but if you want to work for us as a priest of nun that is our requirement.”
THE BIBLE SAYS
“A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant…” 1Timothy 3:2, KJV.
Verse 12: ”Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well”.
“Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committteth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which she is put away doth commit adultery. His disciples say unto him. If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.
[Jesus] But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given…and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it”. Matthew 19:9-12, KJV.
Here Jesus says, if you want to be celibate and married or celibate and unmarried for heaven’s sake you should. It isn’t an easy choice, but it is a form of higher calling and higher spirituality that is completely the individual’s choice. Very few will choose this lifestyle and that’s ok with Jesus.
WARNING, WARNING, WARNING
But here again, if you want to be a priest or a nun, but you think that you also want to be an alcoholic, drug addict, a materialistic, greedy hoarder of things, a power-mad dictator, a devil worshiper, an agnostic, atheist, communist, socialist, homosexual, a pedophile, a married man or woman, a sexually active or romantically active person, then before God I advise you:
You must leave the seminaries, cloisters, brother or sisterhoods of the Roman Catholic Church, unless you have a special dispensation to remain married. You may do more damage by trying to fit yourself into a system that God didn’t create you to be in. Did God create you as a eunuch or change you into one? Life is a test right? Life is also based in reality.
PROTESTANT MINISTERS CONTROL YOUR CHILDREN
The same advice also applies to Protestant Ministers and Evangelists. Total obedience is required from your children and must be measure out with wisdom.
Are you more concerned with shepherding your own family or the family of God? Leave. Don’t risk damaging the church and yourself, by putting your family first. Your family must be well disciplined and used to hard work, obedience and prayer, for God’s sake, not for the sake of appearances. They must not be sneaking around acting the fool under your roof.
The Preacher’s Kid is the rebellious sinful child that embarrasses the Protestant minister & mother. The parents say, “Oh well, he hasn’t given his heart to Jesus yet. What can we do?” Foolish preacher & foolish wife, you must keep them under control until they go off to college. Control them even after they leave home with your purse strings and kindness as long as they need your assistance. Bad behavior equals: no cell phone, no TV, no computer, no dating, no public college only religious college that you will pay for, etc. Dad, be a man and mother, be a holy mother and make sure your children know that you put God first and you won’t tolerate their sinful lusts and inclinations to sin. If they renounce you and your church, then let them wander in the world without your help and protection and maybe they will return to you in repentance. If they don’t return then, you must accept the loss to your family, rather than accept their sins and thereby reject your God.
CHRIST-LIKE LEADERS DON’T DEMAND
No one, not even Jesus, would tell his apostles that they had to become like eunuchs. He did command & order them to eat his body and drink his blood, if they wanted to follow him, but he lost a lot of followers. But he didn’t demand that they become eunuchs in order to be bishops, priests or deacons.
The Church is in the place of Jesus with authority, keys, and great spiritual power, but it has chosen to over-ride the meekness and gentleness of Jesus and they are paying the price. We all pay the price for pride, power and aggression. With greater power comes greater responsibility. The Bible also says the the laity are the "priesthood of believers" [1Peter 2:5], filled with the Holy Spirit [John 20:22], we are the Temple of the Holy Spirit [1Corintians 3:16-17]. So, there's no need for the Church to take on too much responsibility, whether Catholic or Protestant. We: laity, pew warmers, flock of sheep, followers, believers, faithful, baptized with fire & water, temples, Christ bearers, disciples, teachers, prophets, healers, miracle workers, supporters, congregation & the people of God are just fine being led by God with Jesus inside of us.
ADVISORS
Remember the story of the new King Rehoboam when he asked his advisers how he should treat the people & once again unite the 12 tribes of Israel? Jeroboam the son of Nebat came to King Rehoboam with a huge following of people. He represented the ten tribes of Israel, the northern kingdom, people who want to join all the tribes of Israel together again to Judah & Benjamin. He asked to King to lighten the burden on the people and if he did they would come back to him and the Kingdom would be ecumenical, ONE, united and under one King again.
There were two sets of advisers. The young stupid, inexperienced advisers told him to make the burden on the people even more difficult and not lighter. The older wise advisers told the king to indeed lighten the burden and bring God’s Kingdom together again.
The King liked, resonated with & enjoyed the aggressive and domineering attitude of the young advisers. So the King followed the path of the non-meek, the path of the bully, the path of domination, ignoring the warnings of the crowd and he lost the ten tribes. Then he had to prepare for war against the Jewish majority of ten tribes. It was a foolish and disastrous mistake. But a prophet of God stopped him and King Rehoboam of Judah & Benjamin listened and turned the troops around. It’s almost seems like all the prophets & old wise men were telling King Rehoboam and the young advisors that they were in the wrong, but they wouldn’t or couldn’t listen. Power is addicting and absolute power tends to corrupt our judgment.
VATICAN 2
Let’s modernize the situation and imagine that the Catholics and Protestants come to the new, future Pope Peter 2 representing the orthodox and even lapsed & liberal deceived Roman Catholics. He is there to hold Vatican 3.
What happened in the past in Vatican 2…nothing much. We just changed the language of our religion, to sound more Protestant, but we didn’t change any of the real concerns or complaints of Catholics or Protestants. Maybe we should have gone back to the Bible and the 1st and 2nd century traditions and renewed our commitment to the truth of Jesus who is Truth. They did re-investigate the Bible and traditions, but they didn’t want to change too much.
SEX IS NOT ALWAYS BEAUTIFUL
When Pope John Paul 2 told the Europeans that lust, masturbation, sex outside of marriage, all contraception & abortion were sins, there was a mass exodus out of the Roman Catholic Churches. I don’t blame bishops, ministers & priests for fearing these doctrines. Masturbation & abortion is not that firmly established as a sin in the Bible, except for the lust, that precedes it, but non abortive contraception must be preached with less certainty & more humility. If contraception is a sin for the laity, committing the sin of fornication, then it must be a sin to the priests & nuns who are also committing fornication. It seems stupid to encourage the pregnancy of nuns or the lovers of priests, since that will make the Roman Catholic hierarchy look even more foolish. If you don't want priests & nuns having illegitimate children then why don't you encourage contraception for priests, nuns & unmarried laity? It seems to be a legitimate compromise. Don't ask the people in the pews to rise to a standard of behavior that the paid workers of the church can't all meet, even those who have professed their vows.
Now, thankfully, the Vatican realizes that sexual sins in priests must not be covered up or hidden, but punished by removing them from their office. If the Church wants to pay for drug, alcohol and sex therapy, before they eject priests or nuns, that’s also a good idea. Get mental health therapy & spiritual counseling for the priests or church workers before they break into open rebellion against God. Help them after they’ve sinned too. That’s ok & fine, but kick them out and ban them from contact with children, unless they are proven innocent of molestation or rape charges or consensual sex with minors or any aged person.
Children should never be alone with an adult or teen & parents should always be encouraged to sit quietly to chaperon and protect their children in church, any field trips, extra-curricular activities and in school classrooms. If a priest/nun/worker commits a sin that can be repented of, reformed, be renewed in his/her mind and behaviors and is proven to be reformed then forgiveness and reinstatement is an option. How can you predict future behavior?
Mercy is always an option, but addictions are difficult to overcome and wolves, such as sexual predators, sexual perverts, alcoholics, drug addicts, liars, murderers, thieves of the treasury that can’t pay it back should be cast out of the church, indefinitely.
CELIBACY IS NOT COMMANDED BY JESUS CHRIST
Let’s stop the nonsense. No more mandatory celibacy. Allow a special group to be formed by priests and nuns, without help or encouragement from the Vatican. Name it the God Squad or whatever & let the charter be “Natural Eunuchs with Chastity”. Let the natural eunuchs come and serve God in this tiny group of celibates. It will be a minority who joyfully want it & to whom it isn’t a burden & it is natural and healthy for them.
MARRIED PRIESTS & NUNS COST MORE TO HIRE
So what?
If the backlash is you have to reduce the salaries of priests and nuns then, do so.
Buy the house or convent and let the priests and nuns & their families live there for free or some other arrangements to save money. Volunteers can help fix up the houses and donations can be gathered.
The benefit is: this would be a solution to the oft lamented “lonely priests and nuns”. Let married with children priest and nun families live in a four family homes or duplexes or an apartment building in the county as close as possible to all of their various Catholic Churches and Schools. They can drive each other to church, Catholic Schools, meetings, etc. Community is what we a lacking today that the early church had. This will be a great way to comfort the Church religious, give them friendship, security and an instant support group. Save money, reduce alcoholism, perversion, and radicalism, while bringing Heaven down to earth for them.
I would love to have that life style, but alas, I’m not married, although the church says, I can get married. I don’t have a seminary degree either, but I would be tempted to get one, if I could get married and live in a married, chaste, child-filled holy community of happy people. What a concept-- happy priests and nuns. The Eunuchs of course would save the church money, but they would be a small minority. If we need a church for the few religious people that haven’t yet fallen into Satan’s delusions we better plan for the future of the church.
COMFORT
Dear Pope Peter 2, I hope you find this a comfort, even though you may be in hiding, the Church in tatters or you might be in a prison somewhere.
Look up in the sky towards Jerusalem, especially at the end of summer and the beginning of the harvest time. Listen for the golden trumpet of God, around the time of Rosh Hashanah, in September of October, the holiest time of the year for the Jews. Look up for Jesus Christ your Savior everyday and you will receive your reward in Heaven and after the resurrection you will live one day a beautiful life and the New Earth. I hope to see you there and maybe visit with you.
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